242 Ë׸ÄÀ²½¤µ¤ì¤¿¥ì¥¹¢[sage] Åê¹ÆÆü¡§2016/11/08(²Ð) 21:37:44.21 ¡ÖÀ¾ÌÚÌî ¿¿É±¡×¤¬ISTP¤ÈINTJ¤É¤Ã¤Á¤«¤ï¤«¤é¤ó¡¦¡¦¡¦ ³°¿Í¤Î²òÀâ¤Ë°ú¤ÃÄ¥¤é¤ì¤Æ>>236¤Ç¤ÏINTJ¤Ë¤·¤¿¤¬ Á´ÂÎŪ¤Ê°õ¾Ý¤ÏN¤è¤êS¤Ê¤ó¤À¤è¤Ê¤¢ I'm a foreigner, and I don't know much Japanese so I use English. In my opinion, Kotori Minami is ISFJ, not INFP. We can see her Fe, the care to Honoka, not Fi. The lack of courage and the obedience to either her parents or Honoka, in my opinion is Si. ISFJ is the guardian, the caretaker, and the loyalist. Kotori accords to all that above perfectly. Hello from an INFP, I'm going to explain why Kotori is an INFP but have some Fe and Si vibe that made some guys thought that she's an ISFJ. From the episode of "Minalinsky" we can see her Fi when she was attracted by the maids, if Fe / Te is working she'd tell Umi (at least) she's working as a maid. Also in the episode of revealing her departure from school, her reactions are Fi and somewhat Si-based with her avoidance behaviour, as she valued Honoka as her best friend as she don't wan't to hurt her feeling, if Te is working well she'd tell all the members in advance, even before Honoka collapsed on stage. The interactions between Honoka and Kotori is interesting because they're both NFPs and according to some YiJing (°×å´) based analysis, NFPs would change themselves into SFJs and STJ in comfort zone, hence showing A limited degree of empathy / efficiency (Fe / Te dragged by Fi). Honoka in "idol mode" is just like STJs going straight forward towards her target, not allowing anything blocking her. Kotori in "Minalinsky mode" turned herself into an SFJ, she just want anything go smooth but can sacrifice her will for others to achieve their goal. When things just go so wrong that triggered Honoka's rage on Kotori of blaming her for hiding the truth (unhealthy Fi for not knowing the difficulty for Kotori at the moment), and then ruining her road to the idol stage (unhealthy Te), they both fell back to the void, Honoka became a dark ENTP, blaming on herself for the retirement and declaring she's quitting Muse. Kotori then move on towards her departure quietly. 243 Ë׸ÄÀ²½¤µ¤ì¤¿¥ì¥¹¢[sage] Åê¹ÆÆü¡§2016/11/08(²Ð) 23:12:47.85 >>236 ¥é¥Ö¥é¥¤¥Ö¤Ë¤Ä¤¤¤Æ¤Ï²¶¤âÎɤ¯¹Í¤¨¤¿»ö¤¬¤¢¤ë¤ó¤À¤±¤É¡¢¸Ä¿ÍŪ¤Ë´õ¤Ïinfj¤«¤Ê¤È»×¤¦¡£¥³¥ß¥åÎϤϹ⤤¤±¤É¡¢e¤Û¤É¤ÎÀѶËÀ¤Ï´¶¤¸¤Ê¤¤¤«¤Ê¡£ ¿¿É±¤Ïs¤«n¤Ç̤¦¤±¤É¡¢³¤Ì¤¤ÈÈæ¤Ù¤ë¤È³Î¤«¤Ën¤Ã¤Ý¤¤¡£ ¤Ë¤³¤Ï¤É¤Á¤é¤«¤È¸À¤¦¤ÈÊݸî¼Ôµ¤¼Á¤Ê¤Î¤Çsj¤Ã¤Ý¤¤¡£ÌÌÅݸ«¤ÎÎɤµ¤«¤é¤É¤Á¤é¤«¤È¸À¤¦¤Èesfj¤Ë¶á¤¤¤Î¤«¤Ê¤È¡£ ¸å¤Ï³µ¤ÍƱ°Õ¤Ç¤¹¤Í¡£ ¤Ê¤ó¤«²þ¤á¤Æ¹Í¤¨¤ë¤ÈʬÎबÆñ¤·¤¤¡Ä¡£¤É¤Î¥¥ã¥é¤â¡¢¤¤¤í¤ó¤ÊÍ×ÁÇ»ý¤Ã¤Æ¤ë¤«¤é°ì³µ¤Ë¤Ï¸À¤¨¤Ê¤¯¤Ê¤Ã¤Á¤ã¤¦¤Í¡£ ¤¢¤¯¤Þ¤Ç¤â¡¢²¶¤Î¹Í¤¨¤Ã¤Æ»ö¤Ç¤Í¡£ 244 Ë׸ÄÀ²½¤µ¤ì¤¿¥ì¥¹¢[sage] Åê¹ÆÆü¡§2016/11/09(¿å) 01:09:12.26 >>243 ¤¢¤ê¤¬¤È¤¦ ³Î¤«¤Ë¡¢´õ¤ÏNi¤¬¶¯¤¤ÉÁ¼Ì¤¬Â¿¤¤µ¤¤¬¤¹¤ë¡£ ³°¸þ¤Ë¶á¤¤INFJ¤Ã¤Æ¤³¤È¤« ¿¿É±¤Ë¤Ä¤¤¤Æ¤Ï¡¢Âæ»ì½¸¤ò¸«ÊÖ¤·¤¿¤éINTJ¤ÇǼÆÀ¤Ç¤¤¿ INTJ¤âISTP¤âNi¤¬¤¢¤ë¤«¤é»÷¤Æ¤¯¤ë¤ó¤À¤í¤¦¤Ê ³¤³°¤Î¥Õ¥©¡¼¥é¥à¤â¤Î¤¾¤¤¤Æ¤ß¤¿´¶¤¸¡¢°ìÈÖÂ礤ʰ㤤¤Ïʪ»ö¤Ø¤ÎÂнèË¡¤Î¤è¤¦¤À ¡¡INTJ¡§»öÂÖ¤Îή¤ì¤òÇÄ°®¤¹¤ë¤³¤È¤ò½Å»ë¤·¡¢·×²èŪ¤ËÆ°¤¯¡ÊTe¡Ë ¡¡ISTP¡§¤È¤ê¤¢¤¨¤ºÆ°¤¤¤Æ¤«¤é¤½¤Î¾ì¤½¤Î¾ì¤Ç¹Í¤¨¤ë¡ÊSe¡Ë ¤³¤ì¤ò¸«¤ë¤È³Î¤«¤Ë¿¿É±¤ÏINTJ¤Ã¤Ý¤¤ ¤Ë¤³¤Ï¡¦¡¦¡¦¤¿¤·¤«¤ËÌÌÅݸ«¤Ï¤¤¤¤¤ó¤À¤±¤É¡¢F¤¸¤ã¤Ê¤¯¤ÆT¤À¤È»×¤¦ ¤½¤·¤Æ³¤³°¤Ç¤ÏESTP¤¬¼çή Te¤ÈNi¤¬¶¯¤¤¥¿¥¤¥×¤À¤È»×¤¦¤Î¤Ç¸Ä¿ÍŪ¤Ë¤ÏENTJ¤ò¤Ê¤ª²¡¤·¤¿¤¤ ¤Ë¤³¤Ë¤Ä¤¤¤Æ¤Ï¾¤Î¿Í¤Î°Õ¸«¤âʹ¤¤¿¤¤¤Í 251 Ë׸ÄÀ²½¤µ¤ì¤¿¥ì¥¹¢[sage] Åê¹ÆÆü¡§2016/11/09(¿å) 12:40:59.28 ¥Ò¥é¥ê¡¼¤ÏINTJ ¥È¥é¥ó¥×¤ÏENTJ ¤Ã¤Æ´¶¤¸¤¬¤¹¤ë ¾å¤Ë¤¢¤ë¥é¥Ö¥é¥¤¥Ö¤Î¿¿É±¤È¤Ë¤³¤Î´Ø·¸¤Ë¤è¤¯»÷¤Æ¤ë 252 Ë׸ÄÀ²½¤µ¤ì¤¿¥ì¥¹¢[sage] Åê¹ÆÆü¡§2016/11/09(¿å) 14:15:23.54 ¥é¥Ö¥é¥¤¥Ö¿¼¤¤¤Ê
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